Arguing with Idiots

Isn’t it amusing that Glenn Beck writes a book with this title, yet can demonstrate amazing ignorance.

For example, when Glenn Beck and his supporters attack the lower-Manhattan mosque and then he attacks Barack Obama’s Christianity, saying “it’s not Muslim, it’s not Christian” and describing it as “a perversion of the gospel of Jesus Christ as most Christians know it”. That comes as the ultimate irony since Beck is a Mormon, a faith that some other Christians despise and discount while hurling the same criticism at Mormons that Beck makes against Obama!

For example, The Southern Baptist Convention has described Mormonism as “a cult,” a “polytheistic” faith, and theologically non-Christian. One can look online and come up with articles such as Cooper Abrams’ Are Mormons Christian?: The Bible and LDS Scriptures Prove Conclusively that Mormons Are not Biblical Christians.

The country needs to get back to the simplicity of the Bible. The reason our country is in bad shape is that ministers for the most part do not share the truth. Many endorse false gospels including Mormonism.

Better yet, check out this site! or this site where they ask:

The Mormon Church teaches a number of things that conflict with the Bible and are radically different from what Christians down through the centuries have believed. If the LDS Church denies the core teachings of Christianity, should it still be considered a “Christian” faith?

The Mormons have faced persecution for their faith, but Beck is a fairly recent convert (1999). Perhaps this is the reason he is ignorant of religious persecution of Mormons. Although, you would think he would have known about Mitt Romney.

And if Mormons aren’t Christians, then it makes Beck’s statements about bring the US back to Judaeo-Christian values an incredible absurdity: especially if one is aware that Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions.

Moreover the US is a SECULAR society as I continuously point out which is why Article VI has this:

“no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

And the First Amendment:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

As he stands in the District of Columbia, a Secular jurisdiction. But the District of Columbia is a part of Maryland and Virginia. The key motivation for the establishment of the Province of Maryland in 1634 was religious tolerance, especially for people of the Catholic faith. The Province of Maryland instituted the Maryland Toleration Act, also known as the Act Concerning Religion, in 1649. The act called for freedom of conscience for all Christians. Of course, those who didn’t believe in the trinity were liable to prosecution. Thus Jews, Unitarians, and other dissenters from trinitarian Christianity practised their religions at risk to their lives. Furthermore, any person who insulted the Virgin Mary, the apostles, or the evangelists could be whipped, jailed, or fined. Otherwise, trinitarian Christians’ right to worship was protected.

Mormonism does not believe in the Trinity in the same way that traditional Christianity does, which leads to the interesting question of whether Mormonism would have been protected under Maryland’s law! Wouldn’t it be amusing if Beck’s Mormonism would have led to his execution as a blasphemer!

On the other hand, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom was a relative latecomer, but it brought into the public realm separation of church and state as well as freedom of conscience:

Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities.

While Maryland would like to be seen as a home for religious tolerance, it wasn’t that tolerant. Perhaps it is fitting that Beck held his rally in the historic boundaries of that jurisdiction. On the other hand, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom is much more pertinent to modern society than Maryland’s version of religious tolerance although historians argue that it helped inspire later legal protections for freedom of religion in the United States. Of course, one could also argue that the Maryland Act was promulgated by the purtian forces making it somewhat of an act of toleration.

If that is the case, then Beck preached religious intolerance and entanglement in personal affairs in the heart of the territories which led to religious tolerance and separation of Church and State! Even more amusing is if one believes that Mormons are not Christians, which seems to apply to even some former Mormons!

Beck’s historic ignorance of his own faith shows him to be a complete and total idiot. Or to quote ChristianNewsWire:

“Glenn Beck promotes a false gospel, however, many of his political ideas can help America. Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Mormonism is not a Christian denomination but a cult of Christianity.”

Or Brannon Howse, a conservative writer and founder of Worldview Weekend, which organizes Christian conferences, who criticized evangelical participation in Beck’s Rally.

“The Apostle Paul warns Christians against uniting with unbelievers in spiritual endeavors in 2 Corinthians 6:14 where we read, “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”
“While I applaud and agree with many of Glenn Beck’s conservative and constitutional views, that does not give me or any other Bible-believing Christian justification to compromise Biblical truth by spiritually joining Beck…
Christians that want to be committed to Biblical truth cannot “put aside” the cross and Gospel of Jesus Christ nor the supremacy of Scripture by spiritually uniting with those that proclaim another Jesus, another gospel and declare the cross foolishness.”

But that’s what happens once you inject religion into politics. Debates about the right government policy degrade into debates over who is more Christian than the other, or whether they’re Christian at all. It’s remarkable how many times people have to relearn that lesson.

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