Archive for the ‘mass shootings’ Category

Less than a day since I did my last post…

And there is yet another mass shooting in the US.  ‘Seven killed’ in Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting!

Maybe gun control won’t stop mass killings, but not having gun control definitely doesn’t stop them!  In fact, looking at the past 230 odd years of the US being an indepndent country, we have seen that it is a highly violent and blood thirsty country.

WhoWhatWhy has an interesting piece about mass shootings:

One of the most striking things about shooting incidents in America…is how common they are. Another striking thing is how often the media fails to note the previous point, or to explore what that means—or what might be done about it.

Late last night, a gunman walked into a movie theater in a Denver suburb, killed 12 and injured 50. Two days earlier a gunman opened fire outside a bar in Tuscaloosa, Alabama in an incident in which at least 17 were hurt. These were not really so exceptional. Every year, about 100,000 Americans are victims of gun violence, and every week, people calmly enter our schools, our workplaces, our leisure gathering spots and open fire on innocent bystanders.

Whenever we tweet or post about these, often the only people we hear from are those who say we need more guns not less. “If I had been there with my gun….” The problem, of course, is the public at large is being asked to arm everyone and trust that, while the rest of us cower, “the right people” will quickly dispatch “the wrong people” in the modern equivalent of the Shootout at the OK Corral. No mention of whether the teacher is supposed to be armed…when a nut walks into a preschool and starts firing away.

Given that there have been 125 Mass Killings since Columbine, you think some serious solutions would be mentioned, yet it seems that there is the consistent response of inaction, or worse, the loosening of restrictions which make it easier for these incidents to happen.

Unfortunately, a realistic discussion of this aspect of US life never happens while the bodycount keeps rising.  Instead, we keep hearing that the US needs more guns, but that is the cause of the problem.

Man with a plan

This is a graphic of the gear that, James Holmes, the Aurora, Colorado shooter had on him during his shooting spree:

This graphic can be found at:

If you consider that at least three of the last big mass shooting incidents were  done by someone who bought his gun LEGALLY (Virginia Tech’s Seung-Hui Cho, Tucson’s Jared Laughner, and Aurora’s James Holmes), you would think that some alarms would be going off in people’s heads in the US.  Yet, the usual reaction of  “oh, there’s nothing that can be done about this sort of thing” is once again to be heard.

Sure, there will be some people talking about actually doing something about firearms, but it will once again go quiet once all the outrage dies out.  That is quite a difference from how these incidents are handled in other parts of the world–especially one’s that share a heritage with the US.  Hugerford saw a tightening of UK gun laws, Dunblane led to pretty much  all handguns being taken from private possession in the UK, And The Port Arthur incident saw Australia’s gun laws tighten up intensely in less than a year.  But, the US averages 20 mass shootings a year.   The Brady Campaign has a tally of these since 2005.

Mother Jones has an interactive map of mass shootings in the US since 1982.  Some estimate the figure to have been 125 Mass Killings since Columbine: I don’tthink the number is that low.  Mother Jones found that out of the 132 guns possessed by the killers, more than three quarters were obtained legally. The arsenal included dozens of assault weapons and high-powered handguns. (See charts below.) Just as Jeffrey Weise used a .40-caliber Glock to massacre students in Red Lake, Minnesota, in 2005, so too did James Holmes when blasting away at his victims in a darkened movie theater.   Mother Jones also found that half of the cases involved school or workplace shootings (11 and 17, respectively); the other 28 cases took place in locations including shopping malls, restaurants, government buildings, and military bases. Only one of the killers was a woman. (See Goleta, Calif., in 2006.)

Of course, that is a limited guide to mass shootings since very few people have an accurate grasp on how much firearms harm society, and that’s the way the gun lobby would like it.  Like the climate denial crowd, they want to flood the marketplace of ideas with shit science.  The fact that the NRA is so terrified of correct and accurate numbers being collected that they obstruct any legislative attempt to do so is as clear a red flag that they know an informed public will not follow, support or agree with them as you could ask for as an indicator of a serious problem.  But, like climate change, the truth is out there (I give a pitch for this blog) if one is willing to sift through an internet filled with loads of bullshit.

Fact is, the carnage has been going on at least since the 1978, but probably much longer, yet no one wants to do anything about it.  There is too much fantasy out there about people being able to outshoot the gunman, which is total crap in this case since they would have had to do it through a haze of tear gas.  Unfortunately, it is the fantasy which will win out in all this as it always has seemed to have done in recent years.

But, as the graphic says: “By looking closely at Holmes’ ammunition and equipment, it becomes clear the attack at the movie theatre could have been much worse.”  The question is when will it be so bad that people in the US will finally feel some outrage at the carnage happening around them and say enough?

Active Shooter Protocol

The technique for dealing with mass shootings is called the “active shooter Protocol”. This means that the first responder goes towards the sound of the shooting,ignores the dead and wounded, identifies the threat, and neutralises the threat. No verbal commands, no chance for the shooter to surrender. The threat is active and in progress.

Anyone with a firearm who is not reconisable as security service will be considered a target.

The tactic is to move fast and use your firepower. It is the tactic used for dealing with an ambush in combat. Agress the ambushers and use your firepower. That’s your best chance to survive.

The problem is that most people confuse plinking and target practise at the range for defensive training. They are not one in the same. Lots of people who know their weapons well don’t know shit about defensive shooting tactics, active shooter tactics, or have any real combat shooting experience.

Add in that it takes just minutes for a shooting spree to end

At Virginia Tech, the diminutive, South Korean gunman brandishing a 9mm Glock 19 and a Walther P22 took out his first two victims in the early morning hours. He returned two hours later, chained shut the three main entrances to an educational building and opened fire into second-story classrooms. Thirty others were slain before the gunman turned a weapon on himself.

“The [second] shooting spree took him 9 minutes — 9 minutes to shoot 170 rounds and kill 30 people (ed., I’ve seen other estimates of 10-12 minutes),” says Tom Turner, director of campus safety at Roanoke College in Salem, Virginia. “The best thing a department can do is send in first responders to try to minimize death and injury, and neutralize the threat.”

Likewise, the Fort Hood shootings were over quickly.

The minimum number of officers necessary to effectively utilize the active shooter protocol is three, though Gnagey recommends delaying entry until four officers arrive. A team of four in a diamond-shaped movement pattern — with one point officer, two flankers and a rear guard — permits officers to perform a 360-degree search and protect themselves from all sides. “We expect officers to use their head and evaluate the situation. They can go in by themselves if they have to,” DeAndrea adds. “That’s not the best way to operate. But if it’s taking place in front of you, you don’t wait. You go in and save lives.”

The contact team treks toward the gunshots if they know where they’re coming from. This team must disregard victims; it’s only priority is to stop the threat, says DeAndrea. Traditional tactics go by the wayside in that officers move directly toward the threat. “They are marching to the sound of the gun,” he says. “When they hear shots fired, that’s where they respond to.” On their heels, at least in the Arvada PD, is a rescue team, tagged with the responsibility of evacuating survivors and wounded individuals.

The response remains fluid and officers must adapt accordingly, Gnagey emphasizes. If officers arrive on-scene and notice large-caliber bullet holes in cars, buildings or houses, they know the shooter isn’t firing a handgun and the superior firepower of a rifle is needed. Likewise, if gunshots cease and the shooter’s location remains unknown, then officers slow their advance and begin opening doors and exploring empty rooms. If the gunman begins firing again, the team accelerates and foregoes searching until it reaches the subject.

Their ability to adapt cannot end once the shooter is found, adds Gnagey. For example, if officers discover the suspect in a room full of kids, they must transition to the response tactics prescribed for a hostage-barricade situation and summon SWAT. As the situation shifts to a tactical operation, responding officers must lockdown the room and maintain the perimeter until SWAT gets there. But if the gunman begins firing at hostages, and SWAT has yet to arrive, responding officers need to storm in.

Active Shooter Protocol
Active shooter events are unpredictable, dynamic, rapidly evolving, multi-variable situations requiring rapid response by law enforcement. If this facility experiences an active shooter situation, you should take the following actions:
5. Points to remember:
* There may be more than one (1) shooter
* Do not touch anything in the area, as it is a crime scene
* Prepare a plan of action in advance – predetermine possible escape routes for
yourself, and always know where exits are located
* DO NOT go to a Shelter-in-Place site
* When fleeing, get as far away from the shooting scene as quickly and safely
possible – do not take/carry anything with you
6. Police response and you:
* Police will quickly respond to the area in which shots were last heard and attempt
to immediately engage/contain the active shooter
* First arriving officers will not stop to assist the injured, or evacuate personnel
* Remain calm
* Do exactly as police tell you
* Keep your hands empty and visible at all times
* If you know where the shooter is, quickly tell the officers
* DO NOT get in the way of officers

Got that, Junior Rambos?

Or do you want to get your sorry arses shot? That isn’t a bad thing though to have your idiotic arses shot for just being stupid.

Gun accessories don’t kill people….

Yeah, Eric Thompson’s company, TGSCOM Inc., sold a 30 round high-capacity ammunition magazine to George Sodini, the bloke who killed 3 women and wounded 9 others before killing himself at the LA Fitness gym outside of Pittsburgh on the fourth of August. Eric also sold accessories to the Virginia Tech shooter, Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 students and professors on April 16th, 2007 , and the Northern Illinois University shooter, Steven Kazmierczak, who killed 6 students before turning a gun on himself on Feb. 14th, 2008.

Yeah, gun accessories really don’t kill people, but….

Now, I said in a previous post that he should look into selling something non-violent, but Eric still keeps with the mantra that guns are necessary.

In my checkered past, I worked on projects that involved WMD, in particular nerve gasses of various forms and atomic weapons. While I never actually saw the stuff, it was around our facility. I remember walking into one building and seeing a sign that said there were nerve agents present if the red lamp was on.

And hurried out of the building.

I never actually used any of these devices or materials, and they have never been used, but…

There is still a lot of bad karma in having those things out there. I’ve been trying to be good for 25 years now just for my small part in the possibility of mass murder.

If Eric wants the bad karma on his head, that’s his business. But, he might want to take stock on how much karmic garbage he’s racking up there.

Before he shows up in the news again.

Posted 13/08/2009 by lacithedog in Eric Thompson, Karma, mass shootings, TGSCOM

Another mass shooting!

I want to get away from the Second Amendment and gun control rubbish, but yet another shooting happened at a West Palm Beach, Florida Wendy’s where two people are dead and five are injured.

Florida is a shall issue state, which according to John Lott means that stuff like this shouldn’t happen, as it shouldn’t have happened at Virginia Tech.

Of course, the “RKBA” crowd will start screaming for yet more guns when more guns is the problem.

The RKBA crowd wants to drown out songs like Cheryl Wheeler’s “If it were Up to me” that has the line “If it were up to me, I’d take away the guns.” They don’t want people to realise that something needs to be done about the uncontrolled proliferation of firearms. There is too much talk about “gun rights” and none about gun responsibilities.

Of course, there is no such thing as “gun rights”, but the politicians are too cowardly to say that. And they are even more cowardly to not bring up gun responsibilities when the term “gun rights” is used.

RKBA folk like to say that cars, cigarettes, alcohol, and so are cause more deaths than do guns. the problem with that argument is that cars are useful. I would argue that we should wean the US from its cars in favour of mass transit, but cars are useful. On the other hand, I have to be taught to drive, licenced, insured, and my car is registered. I can’t just get a car and drive it. I am also expected to drive responsibly or I can get hammered civilly and criminally.

I have the freedom to write and post this on the internet. Maybe people will read what I write and see that there are people who are frustrated by this lack of responsibility on the part of people who scream for their “rights”. Maybe more of us will link up and work to vote for real change.

Maybe we will begin to see leadership in the media who pander to this talk of gun rights, yet don’t do what they can to show that this is a myth, like John Lott’s statistics.

When will the US wise up?

Brenda Spencer opened fire with a rifle at the Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego, California, killing two adults and injuring nine children. She later explained her actions with the statement, “I don’t like Mondays” back in 1979.

The Boomtown Rats were at a US radio station for an interview when the story of Brenda Spencer came over the news wire. As a loud mid ’70s rock band, the Boomtown Rats were (respectfully if not completely accurately) branded punks by the media. As the Sex Pistols and the Clash became the voice of young London punks, The Boomtown Rats carried the flag for the youth of Dublin. After their debut album saw respectable sales in 1978, they recorded “I Don’t Like Mondays,” their most successful and most enduring hit despite the fact that many US radio stations refused to play it.

I wonder why?

Since Brenda Spencer went “postal” there have been many shootings like this. School shootings like this happen all the time, but they are treated as local news, unless they are like Columbine or yesterday’s Virginia Tech shootings.

I mean 32 dead. Wow, that’s a new record.

I guess the next big school shooting is going to have to top that to become news.

There are other songs which pinpoint the real instrumentality which allows for this carnage: Guns. Cheryl Wheeler’s “If It Were Up To Me”, Wall of Voodoo’s “Shouldn’t have given him a gun for Christmas”, Captain Sensible’s “Yanks with Guns”, Robert Bobby “Guns across the USA”, The Beatles “Happiness is a Warm Gun”, Johnny Cash “Don’t Take Your Guns to Town”, Lynyrd Skynyrd “Saturday Night Special”, Harry Chapin “Sniper”, Indigo Girls “Don’t Give that Girl a Gun”, various versions of “The Devil’s Right Hand”, I Can Lick Any Son Of… “Dear Mr. Heston”, Ian Hunter “Gun Control”, Pearl Jam “Glorified G”, Robert Bobby “guns Across the USA”, any other suggestions out there?

Anyway, Cheryl Wheeler’s “If it were up to me” which ends with “If it were up to me, I’d take away the guns.” is also not played on the airwaves. The pro-gun crowd is too scared of it.

Why, let’s face it, more guns does not equal less crime. If it were the case, Philadelphia would be one of the safest places in the nation with the largest number of NRA life members and amount of concealed carry permits. Also, Virginia, they can just strap on a gun there, but this is the second time they have been victimised by maniacs with a gun on a large scale (anybody remember Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad?).

I mean those last two paralaysed the nation’s capital with only one gun. Shit, the East Coast!

Not bad.

It is the guns and I don’t hear many people talking about gun responsibilities!

Sorry, but 28 years is too long and too many bodies have piled up from guns. It’s costs this country too much to treat all the gunshot victims.

It’s time for guns to be put under strict regulation–after all Heller-McDonald says that’s Constitutionally OK.

The only thing stopping that happening is the gun lobby.

For a great piece on Brenda Spencer listen to ‘s piece from Day to Day, January 31, 2005:

Add on the following songs:
Stephen Sondheim: Gun Song, Bobby Bare Jr.: Gun Show, Railroad Jerk: Gun Problem, Kittens For Christian: Gun Country, D.R.I.: Gun Control , Guess Who: Guns, Guns, Guns, Junior Reid: Gun Court, Boy Wundah: Change (The Anti Gun Crime Song), 311: Guns (Are For Pussies), Gorillaz: Kids With Guns, Robert Bobby: Guns Across The U.S.A and Bigger Guns., UB40: Guns In The Ghetto, The Damned: Gun Fury, The Tannahill Weavers: At The End Of A Pointed Gun, Steely Dan: With A Gun, Buju Banton: Mr. Nine, Aerosmith: Janie’s Got A Gun, Billy Idol – Don’t Need A Gun, and Julie Brown: Homecoming Queen’s got a gun



Posted 17/04/2007 by lacithedog in boomtown rats, mass shootings, mondays, music