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I almost bought an AR.

I guess the H&K MR556 or SIG516 are AR-15 variants.

So, number one deterrent was price. The SIG is the less expensive of the two, but still in the four figure range. We are talking a price of US$ 1400+. Ouch. Toss in that I am leaning toward the H&K compared to the Sig.

And that’s the price if you can find one.

Assault Rifles and guns in general are a hot commodity these days. For good reason given the chaos of the past week. Some people have seen it on TV. Other people have lived it.

And people want to protect themselves. And what better way than with a weapon that was designed for the battlefield and proven in mass shootings across the country. Las Vegas was a good advertisement. The chaos of the past week are the perfect advertisement for a weapon like this.

I may not like it, but it is hard to say that people shouldn’t be able to own these weapons when the cities are under siege. That makes me different from a lot of people on the left, but I am also much more pragmatic than a lot of people on the left.FireShot Capture 012 - Why are some US police forces equipped like military units_ - World n_ - www.theguardian.com

Those are the ones who are moaning about the militarisation of the police, like this article in the Guardian. But it misses something that this post is pointing out. Civilians can buy the 5.56 Assault Rifle with no problem. Shouldn’t the cops be as well armed as the civilians if they are going to keep the peace?

Toss in there is a movement to defund the police:

Defunding, said activist Jeralynn Blueford, is the logical response from leaders in this moment of unprecedented unrest. “If police had been serious about reform and policy change, then guess what? People would not be this angry.”

What The Fuck? Serious What the Fuck?

3d25106b37We have seen chaos and looting in US cities over the past week. Gun stores have lines that wrap around the block as people scramble to buy weapons to defend their homes.

While I support keeping guns out of the hands of people like criminals and the looters, it is thoroughly insane to prevent the law abiding to their safety. And for the most part I am sceptical of firearms for home defence, I can get why some people would want them.

It’s the image in this Tommy Gun ad from the days when they were freely available.  The ability to protect your home against marauding bands of evil doers.

And the do gooders (I can’t really say the left since there are some of us who get what needs to be done) who would defund the police and try to make assault rifles illegal. The argument that “no one needs one of these in a civilian world” rings hollow these days.

The chaos of the past week ISN’T the civilian world and toleration of those who are destroying US cities is wrong. It’s turning the “silence is consent” argument back at them. Even worse, it’s not silence, but outright appeasement.

Black Lives Matters lost any relevance the moment the fires and violence broke out. They could have salvaged their effort if they stood down and denounced the violence. But allowing violence on either side is wrong.

I don’t really like that I have to accept that assault rifles are an undeniable fact of US life, but there needs to be some feeling of safety and security until people stand down: especially the rioters and looters. Violence isn’t the answer. Especially if you are not the body authorised by law to keep the peace. Breaking the law really isn’t the answer.

There are options other than violence and chaos, however, there is a misguided belief that is what is necessary. That is costing the Black Lives Matters its legitimacy even amongst the people it claims to represent.

Because the people buying guns aren’t just white.

stolen guns

We never hear about how many guns are stolen from their owners in all this talk about the efficacy of handguns for self-defence. I am curious as to what the actual number is of guns stolen which end up in the hands of criminals. I asked the ATF agent I worked with if they kept statistics on this, but she told me that most traffickers say their guns are stolen.

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. I mean who the hell else is going to buy a hot gun other than a criminal? The guns for criminals crowd won’t admit to straw purchases or want to prevent people like Steven Kazmierczak and Seung-Hui Cho from buying guns. No, they would rather deal with the aftermath of shootings than attempt at prevention. So, let’s just deal with the issue of stolen guns.

Now, there are several thoughts on this. the first of which is that anything which can be taken away from you and ultimately used against you is a lousy tool for self-defence. Even more so if having that object means that you will become a target for crime.

The reason for sci-fi studies such as John Lott and Gary Kleck is that it is a no brainer that having a gun in the house makes it more likely that you may suffer gun injuries. I mean you can’t suffer from injuries if you don’t have a gun, unless you are hit by a bullet from your neighbour’s gun. Likewise, guns aren’t the best choice for self-defence if are likely likely to be stolen, or, worse, they make you a target for crime.

Actually, what is interesting is that the Lott and Kleck studies allegedly show people engaging in “criminal behaviour”. So, we have most of the alleged defensive gun uses being made by criminals! That’s why I am sort of hoping that SCOTUS does find an individual right since it WILL be guns for criminals time! More work for criminal defence attorneys and more criminals with guns on the streets.

So why does the NRA fight laws that require stolen guns are reported to the police? I mean that’s rather a no brainer. The first thing I would do if i were robbed is report the crime to the police if only for insurance reasons. I know that gun stores report robberies. I believe they have to as part of their licensing requirements. On the other hand, this law is being fought for no apparent reason.

Unless, of course, this is indeed because the traffickers are saying that their guns are stolen once they turn up at a crime scene. personally, I think the owner should be charged in such an instance if he didn’t report it to the police. Given the gun lock argument during the Heller oral arguments, this might not be an issue.

Even sillier are the laws that allow for people to keep guns in their cars. I had my car broken into a few weeks ago in what appeared to be a secure parking garage. And, as a criminal defence lawyer, I know that theft from auto is pretty hard to prosecute. Keeping guns in cars is one of the most idiotic thing to do. Why not hand out guns to criminals in the first place.

But then again, I now call the RKBA crowd “guns for criminals”.

The problem is that there are no good statistics for how many guns are stolen. I mean really stolen, as opposed to someone who traffics saying his gun was stolen. The guns for criminals crowd don’t want any good data out there regarding crime guns which means this data won’t become available. I mean we have Tiahrt blocking gun trace data and the stolen gun data has never been available. Well, there is this little blurb which is pretty much useless:

Victims report to the Victim Survey that
handguns were stolen in 53% of the
thefts of guns. The FBI’s stolen gun
file’s 2 million reports include information
on ¾
1.26 million handguns (almost 60%)
470,000 rifles (22%)
356,000 shotguns (17%).

Of course, this data doesn’t adaquately reflect how many guns are stolen, just reported. And there should be better data available given this is the only source which the guns for criminals crowd will admit. On the other hand, the guns for criminals crowd might get caught feeding the illegal gun supply if they draw too much attention toward thefts.

Posted 24/03/2008 by lacithedog in crime guns, public safety, stolen guns